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| Shui: You’ve got to be first lucky, and then tough. Gates: Well I don’t know if it’s “tough”. Hard working, self-critical, in that sense, yes. Regarding Wealth Shui: You are the richest man in the world. It’s interesting to find the reports saying that still, you know, you lead a very simple life. A hamburger is still your favorite. Gates: I get cheese on it now. Shui: Ha, ha, ha! You get cheese on it. Gates: I can afford it. Shui: I remember last time I asked you, “How do you, you know, look at money?” Billions of money. And you told me, “They are just numbers.” A lot of questions ask about how you look at money. Wealth. Is it something for you, the power to do more, to contribute to the human society, or it’s a kind of a, you know, to some extent, a kind of a burden. Gates: Well achieving some level of wealth is very comforting, to know that in terms of paying for my kids?education, or a nice vacation, I never have to worry about that. And that’s a huge privilege, that it’s actually a pretty small percentage of the people in the world who get to not have that concern. And it’s a very nice thing that lets me focus on learning and doing my job. The wealth I have that goes well beyond that is what will go to the Foundation. And so the Foundation should be able to make many breakthroughs in terms of treating all lives as being equal by taking these diseases — that are really only in the poor countries —and coming up with vaccines or drugs that can eliminate the millions of deaths that are still caused by those. And it’s tragic that there was no focus on that, but that’s the unique thing that I found. And it’s very similar to software development in terms of risk, and bringing in smart people, and thinking long-term. So I assembled a group that feels very good that we’ll have a large impact. So basically, wealth, any wealth above, certainly above a million dollars, creates a responsibility to give back, I think. Philanthropy Shui: Indeed, actually, in recent years, we found, people find that you turn more, or you turn more energy to more, let’s say, social affairs like philanthropy, to charity causes. And even you showed your will to the public, saying that you will only leave a small number of money to your children, but put the majority of your wealth to the Foundation, to philanthropic things like that. What made you to do this kind of transformation? Gates: Well it’s not really a transfor-mation. The Microsoft slogan from the very beginning was a computer on every desk and in every home. Not just rich homes or rich countries; it was really to empower everybody. And we’re a long way from achieving it. So this idea of digital inclusion, whether it’s older people, or rural people, or poor people or handicapped people, that’s always been a part of our, why we’re so excited about what software can do. And I get very energized when I go out and I see blind people browsing the internet using our software, which really changes their life. Or when I go to these community learning centers that we’ve done in China for migrant workers to come in and learn new skills and stay online, be in touch. That’s, it really renews my excitement about how IT speaks to basic needs. |
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